Friday, 7 August 2009

Say "Duh!"

I was always a bit tomboy-ish. I don't know how much this had to do with the fact that my mother wanted only boys (poor thing had to try four times to get it right), or the fact that she liked to dress me in trousers and cut ALL my hair off ALL the time. Perhaps it was more of a case of me being the studious kind. I always had my nose in a book. I didn't like dolls so much, but I didn't play football either.

At university, I took all the feminism courses. I was offended if anyone suggested that men and women were fundamentally different. I was planning a big career and a lot of sowing my wild oats and no one was going to tell me what women were supposed to do instead. Umm, and then I met Babes at seventeen and then one day, fifteen years later, I'm a housewife with two kids. And I have absolutely no regrets. I'm still a feminist, it's just that my definition has widened a bit, to include personal choice and silly things like that.

But that was not what I was going to write about. This is: I think I just had another one of my gender-related opinions smashed.

Before I had children, I was full of talk of how I was not going to let their gender influence the way I treated them, and the way they played. I bought Jack dolls as well as blocks, and pink frilly stuff as well as trains. Babes said I was "trying to make him into a girl". I said "I was just not letting his penis dictate what he could do."

Jack didn't really care - he played with the dolls occasionally, loved dressing up as a girl (not so much now), but mostly he played with cars and blocks.

...and now I have a girl. I was still convinced there would not be so much of a difference. I mean, Jack would play with the dolls, he loved pink stuff, chose his own clothes - all so-called "girly" stuff, right?

Wrong.

Seeing Marie play with dolls - she "gets" it. She will talk to them, chide them, feed them a bottle, change their nappies (try to anyway). She just gets it. In a way Jack never did. And she's twenty months old.

So, yesterday, I bought her this:


It's a bag full of things for her dolls, with bibs and toys and plates and spoons and even a potty. And she will know just what to do with it. And for Jack we got a car transporter. The gender stereotyping! The awfulness!

Cute, though, right?

(By the way I am still by no means saying that ALL boys or ALL girls are alike. It's just that, on average, probably more girls might like dolls and more boys might like cars. I feel like I just reinvented the wheel and the whole of the internet is going "Duh!"

I'm also still giving Marie cars to play with, and Jack still gets to be the mother when we play families. Just in case you thought I'd gone all creepy and right-wing fascist on you.)

17 comments:

  1. It's cars all the way in this household, nothing else gets much of a look in unless it is a sword or gun shaped, but Adam's favourite colour is pink and he does comment that he likes my skirt that has flowers on it. Luke does a nice arabesque on his scooter. I let them get on with what they want to do, and encourage everything they show an interest in.

    Haven't got the energy to do much else to be honest!

    Nice post, though. I'm with you every step of the way.

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  2. Same here in many ways: I abhorred dolls as a child (still cannot stand them, so much so that I have threatened no.2 - a girl - with decapitating hers if she misbehaves once more... bad mummy, bad mummy) and LOVED Lego. Still do.
    All 3 kids (eldest and youngest are both boys) are entranced with building, drawing, creating things, which we encourage as it means they can use their imagination more freely when stuck for entertainment and no 'gadgets' (eg when on holiday and the battery runs out on the portable DVD player and you have foolishly forgotten the charger, hmmmm...)

    I also recall when no.3 was born contemplating whether colour was really an issue (boys can wear pink, right?) and being told off by other half about dressing his son as a girl.
    So maybe we need to address this phenomena at a 'higher' (read: adult male) level?!?

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  3. Children will blow so many of our beliefs right out of the water. Give a boy a stick, he'll make a gun out of it or hit a tree with it. Give a girl a stick and she'll put a dress on it.
    This is my experience, anyway.
    And let's face it- biology is biology.

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  4. I'm all for letting kids be who they want to be... so long as they don't aspire to become serial killers.

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  5. All my friends have gone through the same with their children. Leaving aside pyschoanalytic theories about girls identifying far more with their mothers than boys do, and thus copying what they have seen/experienced their mum do more than boys will, what I take issue with is the subsequent leap of logic (which I recognise you don't make here). I mean the "It's natural, therefore it's good, therefore it must dictate the rest of their lives" approach. Children do lots of things "naturally", which we hasten to squash or mould, but curiously, in the arena of gender roles, there is a tendency to stand back in admiration of the forces of "instinct", and regard the playing with dolls/sticks at an early age as vindication of all sorts of incredibly complex, socially dictated gender roles.

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  6. my kid loves ALL THINGS PINK but then again she loves bugs and lizards and all the other things I would never touch with a ten foot pole

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  7. Have you seen that Swedish case where the parents of a child are refusing to reveal it's gender, even to the child. They don't want any outside influences on how the child acts.

    Must dig up the story.

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  8. @Brit in Bosnia - My son loves pink, too, but won't admit it to anyone else for fear of being laughed at. I think that's a bit tragic.

    @London City Mum - I dressed my newborn son in pink once and was shocked at myself how much I minded people thinking he was a girl.

    @Ms. Moon - Biology does indeed seem rather strong. Marie is a very good swordswoman, though.

    @Badass Geek - You would restrict their development like that? :-)

    @Anonymous - I object to exactly that, too.

    @bernthis - Yeah, and my little girl loves to vacuum. Don't know where she got that either. Definitely not from me.

    @Xbox - NOOO! That's the freakiest thing. Do tell me if you find that story.

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  9. That's so interesting. My nearly two year old son pushes toy vehicles around all day, but has pushed a pink toy pushchair at playgroup. His favourite colour appears to be pink too. I'm open to him and his brother playing with whatever they like, but they seem to go for vehicles at the moment.
    Did you see the BBC documentary with John Barrowman discussing whether being gay was nature or nurture? It had a fascinating section on gender and toys.

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  10. a similar story here... i just decided i need to listen to what my children want and not worry about pushing ANY agenda on them, feminist or oppresive or otherwise..and my daughter loves pink, purple, horses and fairies and my sons love karate and art

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  11. I love this post. It is so great and exactly the way I feel. I was such a tomboy growing up and still tend toward tomboyish ways as a grown up. I think all parents should be this way because as we learn to accept more than gender stereotypes it will also be easier for us to accept if our child happens to be gay or even transgendered! And that will relate into them not being ashamed by it.

    I am in no way saying that playing with dolls as a boy or trucks as a girl says that they are either one of those things, I just think it's an important step in the process of letting our kids truly be who they are!

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  12. yeah i used to say no gendered toys, but my daughter loves dolls. Of course she also loves cars, so I think we are balanced.

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  13. I had exactly the same intentions before I had kids - 2 boys at that (which was a huge surprise...always thought I was destined to have girls). But I do remember years ago watching a great programme on bbc2 about gender stereotyping kids - one of the psychologists was sure that it was all nuture and not nature. Until of course she had her own children - a girl and 2 boys. She didn't allow guns or any 'fighting' boys toys in the house. She didn't buy a load of dolls. All toys were as gender neutral as possible. And what did she find? Her daughter would roll up a tea towel if she had to, to be her baby. And her boys would stick saucepans on their heads and charge about using wooden spoons as lasers whilst they played 'war'.

    The programme had much more thoughtful research in it too and it helps me now when the boys are being all energetic and testosteroned to know that this isn't a reflection on my parenting that they don't want to sit still and colour/play dress up/ etc. They are just fundamentally boys. I don't get it. I doubt I ever will. And I don't encourage it. But I do accept it - and that makes my life a little easier.

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  14. I agree with all you say, but I do have one beef. Does EVERYTHING for girls have to be pink? That really gets me down. It's just so silly. Sorry, but it is.

    And purple, which used to be gender neutral, is slowly going the same way.

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  15. Oh and I thought my wee girl was so clever to change teddy's nappies and all that, while all the boys are pushing cars. You've destroyed my illusion ;)

    Oh yes, pink is getting on my nerves too. On the other hand, dinosaurs and lions get boring after a while too.

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  16. Found it:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/health/2009/0714/1224250632537.html

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