(Source: De Standaard, today.)
Isn't that just a lovely picture?
Really, I don't get it. I get "cocksucker" and "motherfucker." They are not exactly Sesame Street material. "Cunt" - fine. That may be considered offensive. But the others? Not so much. Surely, before ten one should be allowed to "not give a shit", or to "take the piss." Right? What if everything goes "tits up?" A functional "fuck off" should be okay in a nine o'clock drama or interview. Especially "shit," "piss" and "tits" seem so harmless to me. Too harmless to merit a ban in any case. Maybe this is because English is my second language, but then again if I consider the Flemish translations I'm not bothered at all either.
I am wondering what is allowed. I'm supposing "breasts" is allowed. What about "boobies?" If "tits" is out, can you have one "tit?" "Dick" is a first name, so it must be allowed under certain circumstances. Otherwise doing a bad accent becomes "doing a Penis Van Dyke" - it just doesn't have the same ring to it. But then I suppose "dick" is out in other circumstances. What about "crap?" Can you say that? What about all the other synonyms for "shit?"
Another thing I wonder - is there a list, or is there some kind of committee who judge each case separately? If there is a list, I would have liked to have been at that meeting. I can just imagine it: twenty self-righteous zealots with sticks up their asses (is "ass" allowed?) sitting around a large table, discussing the merits of "spunk" vs "semen." That would have been priceless. If there isn't a list, it must be a very tedious and ridiculous job to sit and judge each programme on it suitability.
In the list case, if you go on a show pre-watershed, are you sent this list just in case? That piece of paper would so go on my fridge. If there isn't a list, are you just meant to know magically what is and isn't allowed? Is this knowledge taught in schools? What if you genuinely make a mistake, using a word which isn't allowed, but you thought it was? Do you get fined anyway?
Another thing - can you say the words in quotes? I mean - if you want to discuss FCC rulings before ten o'clock, can you say: "The word "fuck" is out of bounds," or do you have to say "The word for "copulate" which rhymes with "duck" is not allowed?" In other words, does the context matter? Can you make a case for certain words in certain contexts? (If quotes are allowed, I'm in the clear here.)
I just thought of another one: what about people with Tourette Syndrome who swear a lot? Are they not allowed on TV, are they given special dispensation, or are they bleeped out? (The first and third option would be rather offensive, I would think.)
What a minefield!
All this just makes me wonder which of the following is true: either some American broadcasters are really filthy-mouthed people who cannot by themselves use appropriate language for their audience, or some American viewers are really touchy and cannot find the off switch on their TV. Also - which parents are letting their TV babysit their children until ten o'clock exactly, after which they punctually send them to bed?
(I never got the whole Janet Jackson booby-gate either. Breasts just seem such a non-issue that I genuinely couldn't believe the fuss to start with.)
We don't have similar rules in Belgium, and I don't see children's presenters swearing all the time. Newsreaders still haven't developed a potty mouth, and neither have the weather people. Fancy that! People just seem to understand when swearing is and isn't appropriate. Without fines or rules! Breasts can be shown, as can other parts of people's anatomy if necessary, and so far this doesn't seem to have killed anyone.
I think that, for Belgians, the fact that all this can be such an issue to a whole country is the more astounding fact. Why bother caring so very much about what other people are saying and showing? We have debates on extremist views and advertising on TV, not a little swear word or a stray breast. Why the obsession with sex and excrements? (Okay, the latter I understand.)
While I'm at it, I also want to add that I find the graphic violence on most American cop shows much much much more offensive than any of the words discussed before. Give me a "cocksucker" over a shoot-out any day. I don't want my children to watch CSI or House (too gruesome) but an interview with a celebrity in which the word "motherfucker" is used? I can live with that.
I will leave you with a great song which was played to death on the Belgian radiostations when it first came out - all day, every day, any time of day:
(Warning: playing this will make you happy dance if you don't mind the word "fuck."
Also, the video is kind of crappy and the spelling not good. But then you'll be dancing, not reading, so that's okay.)

"Wanker" apparently isn't offensive. Or "bugger". But only because they American TV execs don't know what they mean. Wonder what they'd make of Ian Drury?
ReplyDelete@dadwhowrites - That's great! How crazy is that? You can say "wanker" but not "tits" - what a country.
ReplyDeleteSince I live in the U.S. that kick ass fucking song is never aired.. and now I just want to sit and listen to it on a coninuous loop... fuck being my favorite word ever.
ReplyDeleteSome shows get away with *shit* like South Park.. and others I can't think of right now.
Oh, also, *wanker* needs to be embraced by Americans... I try to use it daily.
Got to say I am quite happy to have swearing to the minimum on TV in general, especially if the kids are watching but if you are talking evening (after 7) or adult content programmes then live and let live I say! Mich x
ReplyDeleteAss is allowed but not asshole. Seriously.
ReplyDeleteAnd the Tourette Syndrome sufferer would be bleeped. I'd bet money on it.
@tulpen - Great song, eh? And also one of my favourite words. You should be a trendsetter and make "wanker" go global!
ReplyDelete@Michelle - Well, I'd be surprised if relaxing the rules would make childrens tv execs decide swearing is the way to go.
@Steph - That is surreal. Just surreal.
America is seriously fucked up in its cocksucking values. Thank-you very much.
ReplyDelete(Love that song.)
Dear- Can I steal that picture for a possible haiku blog post?
ReplyDelete@Ms. Moon - Of course you can!!!
ReplyDeleteDid you know George Carlin did an entire comedy routine around those words? "Seven Words you Can't Say on Television"
ReplyDeleteIt was hilarious!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Dirty_Words
Jesus doesn't let us say those words on TV. He can't seem to stop us in our everyday lives though.
ReplyDeleteOh my goodness, this was so funny, I about peed my pants. I am AMAZED at your writing considering it is in a 2nd language. Your blog is one of my favorites.
ReplyDeleteThese bans are so funny to me too. They have different rules about language depending on the time. It's funny because with asshole they are allowed to say ass, and not hole. I also wondered if bloody is like fuck in English, why is it allowed on our TV?
tits is an absolute mystery. I think the original censor had some issues.
ReplyDeleteHere's the link to Carlin's video. He is a genius. He asks the same questions you do Mwa!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_Nrp7cj_tM
I'm pretty sure Colbert will hit the new Supreme Court case pretty hard (before you go tits up) but here is a little something until then http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/61109/march-30-2006/the-word---f--k
ReplyDelete@Maggie - Better check it out. Thanks!
ReplyDelete@All this trouble - Ah, that explains it. I didn't understand Jesus was in charge of American TV.
@Kate - Thank you! I blush.
@Geeks in Rome - Better check it out quick then. Don't want to do anything too similar.
@GingerB - Thank you! Will check it out as soon as the kids have had breakfast!
I totally agree with you... or I did, until L called me an "ugly bitch" when I was getting her out of the car yesterday....
ReplyDeleteShe's THREE! And while I might describe things (kitchens, buildings, pieces of furniture, other people's children)* as "ugly" and female dogs as "bitches" I'm unlikely to combine the two and use them for my mother...
So where's she got it from? Not American telly clearly, because she'd have called me a "cocksucking motherfucker" and probably not the British version either, unless I've been asleep through that particular episode of Peppa Pig...
But she's got it from somewhere (I got very cross and told her she wasn't to say it, but she couldn't tell me where she'd heard it), and so I find myself wanting to put my hands in front of her ears when we go anywhere, however childfriendly, just in case....
*not all of those are true...
@planb - That is a bad one! How long a lecture did you give her for that?
ReplyDeleteMy son experimented with "fuck you" for a while, and I tried to explain to him the different times and ways we can use words. I think he got it. I'm relatively lenient, so I kind of told him recreational use is okay, hurtful or insulting use is not. Also don't use around people who get offended, like daddy. I haven't actually heard him use it again, unless it was very much in quotes. Like - my friend said "..."
I do find that Peppa Pig particularly foul-mouthed.
@Maggie & Geeks in Rome - I think I can get away with it. Not too many of the same points. Very funny, though, thanks for the link.
ReplyDelete@GingerB - Very funny! Thank you. Got the headphones out. Didn't want to have to explain to Babes what happened to the kids otherwise.
It's totally silly, especially considering that shows on cable (which many people in the US have as well) have fewer problems with these words. (I've been working my way through The Sopranos recently, and there is no shortage of 'fucks'.) As you say, there is plenty of gorey violence.....
ReplyDeleteJesus doesn't only control TV. A lifeguard threatened to expulse a teenager from our local pool the other day for repeatedly saying "ass". At school they teach them not to use "potty words" like "butt" and "boob" and I live in fear of my kids picking up choice phrases at home and using them "on the outside".
ReplyDeleteThankfully the only one which has slipped our so far is "bloody" and that just had everyone looking around to see who was injured :-)
The dictionary is censored too : http://kelloggsville.blogspot.com/2010/03/think-of-swear-word-any-word.html
ReplyDeleteA discussion at home the other day was based around the fact that in high school 'outloud' reading a girl refused to say the c word because she was a Christian. In the end the fustrated teacher said it for her. "no way!" I said to the teens "the teacher said cunt in front of the class"! "no 'crap' mum, she wouldn't say 'crap'" "but crap isn't swearing it's just punctuation like fuck" "oh mother!" :0)
@nappy valley girl - See - and what time is that on? Because that's not so prudish at all.
ReplyDelete@Sophie - The life guards are in Jesus' pocket as well???
@Kelloggsville - Thanks for the link - that was really interesting! And just unbelievable as well.
And it amuses me very much that the Christian wouldn't say "crap" because from the sound of it a lot of Christians like words like "fornicate" and "sodomise" - some seem obsessed with these kinds of things.
I suppose it's the puritanical roots of the country. You're right, violence on telly is far worse than some swearing.
ReplyDeleteI have a hard time with the rules over here. I can't stand little kids saying "crud", "butt" and "fart" and yet no one else bats an eyelid. Most live TV shows have about a 7 second delay so any word on the "list" is beeped immediately.
ReplyDeleteThe funniest thing was when the Austin Powers movie first came out, news readers were Saying "shag" and "shagadelic" all over the place. No clue.
Hehehehehehehe, I LOVE that you write what you do, tell it like it is etc. Makes for a happy day after I read your blog.
ReplyDeleteThanking you.
Sandi
haha i love this post!!
ReplyDeleteSeriously now I had no idea! I thought shit was a common enough word.
ReplyDeleteMade me think of the better class of English newspapers (wry smile) which apparently thought the word "fuck" was disgusting, but used "bonking", which means exactly the same thing and sounds just as rude, all the time. Whilst showing tits everywhere.
ReplyDeleteI conclude that the English speaking world is very confused.
What a great post!
ReplyDeleteIt so is a mindfield. I wrote a post recently with the C word in it, and kinda wished that i hadn't.
http://marketingtomilk.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/5-things-that-this-week-made-me-go-points-finger-nt/
My follower list diminished quite sizeably after that. It is definitely not one on the acceptable list, even when accompanied by asterices.
http://marketingtomilk.wordpress.com
Surely, before ten one should be allowed to "not give a shit", or to "take the piss." Right? What if everything goes "tits up?" A functional "fuck off" should be okay in a nine o'clock drama or interview.
ReplyDeleteWe don't say "take the piss" or "tits up" in the US.
I mean - if you want to discuss FCC rulings before ten o'clock, can you say: "The word "fuck" is out of bounds," or do you have to say "The word for "copulate" which rhymes with "duck" is not allowed?"
No, you say "the f word" or "used a profanity" or possibly "the person said 'blank' off you 'blank blank'" (actual bleeps are preferred, of course).